Online Discussions

Hey. Our pal (and member of the SRS yahoogroup) ‘veggietwentysix’ compiled a recent list of online discussions. It’s great. Thanks, veggie (and also for expanding our links section – check it out for some new articles). He also pointed out that since I added so many articles from my old website that the blog heavily leans towards discussing racism against Asian Gays. So, we’d love to hear from other perspectives – anyone who wants to write articles or postings, please send ‘em to us, and we’ll put it up.  – Andy

Happy New Year. I was on Huffingtonpost and read something that led me to the following discussions online around sexual racism. I’m posting them here because I think it’s useful to collect such links and it’s always heartening to see the topic being discussed. I apologize if any of them have been posted before.

This was the post on huffingtonpost: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/phillip-m-miner/gay-suicide_b_1186183.html

He writes at one point,”I know I’m not so supposed to mention this for fear that I might be misquoted by social conservatives, but queer people are frequently and impressively mean to one another.”

He touches on racism and included a link that led to the others I found below.

http://www.terrylevine.com/2011/03/the-queer-case-of-racism-in-the-gay-community/ .html

http://thenewgay.net/2010/08/why-am-i-not-attracted-to-black-men.html

http://thenewgay.net/2009/09/the-racial-cop-out.html

http://metroweekly.com/news/opinion/?ak=5613 (Sexual racism is at the core of what many gay men believe to be ”preferences”)

http://www.bathhouseblues.com/Body_vs_Race.html

http://www.bathhouseblues.com/GWM_GAM_2.html

I’d like to say kudos to Archie comics for its completely normal treatment of a gay interracial relationship. They could have easily had two gay, white characters but they went another way. Little decisions like these are what, in my opinion, what it takes to end the sexual racism that exists. I think it’s a positively subversive move and one that should be applauded. It’s really great. I love that Clay looks like me, if I were a cartoon, I’d look just like him in that cover pic. Hopefully, they’ll have gay friends of all colors. If you’re so inclined, I encourage you to contact them and let them you know you support what they’re doing and that you’d like to see more of it in the future.

Check it out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/07/archie-comics-wedding-fir_n_1187741.html

Contact info:

Archie Comic Publications, Inc 325 Fayette Ave. Mamaroneck, New York 10543-2318 Phone – 914-381-5155 Order Fax – 914-381-4015

A youtube experiment

Nathaniel sends along this youtube video

‘After many profiles I saw saying: no blacks, no asians and observing the behaviour of many white gay males when it comes to partner choice I have questioned some about it on the internet. Many claim that they are not being racist. They see the ethnically motivated partner choice as a preference, just like preferences for skinny or heavier men.Many of them say they do not hate black or asian people and have many friends with these backgrounds. In general they can not show pics of themselves with these friends, cant tell any names and I rarely see white males socializing with other ethnicities in clubs and such (unless they do have a preference for another race). I tested the validation of the preference argument on the net by adding to “no jews”next to “no blacks and no asians”. The response was overwhelmingly agressive and directed to “no jews”. People have called me antisemetic because I stated I dont want to sleep with Jews. They would not accept my statement it being merely a preference It seems that if you don’t fancy Jews, you are antisemitic. If you dont fancy blacks that doesn’t make you racist. Strange, because in my opinion it is equally valid not to date someone because of his convictions/beliefs as dating someone because of his physical appearance. In many cases too, Jews are genetically and often physically different from your average Swede or German so in that way there is somewhat of a racial difference. What do you think? I will delete nasty hurtful responses. This was an experiment revealing a double standard’.

 

Sexy Geeks

SRS contributor Michael suggested that we highlight not only the problems, but positive representation of men of colour in the media.

Alan and Tommy are great photographers and artists, and here, with no mention of race at all, they’ve got a fun selection of sexy photos of mostly Asian guys and a hot black guy, that aim to challenge a different stereotype…

When I saw the images, I just assumed that they were gay men, but I see now that it does NOT state that. But that’s another thing that I like about their work (and check out their profile of hot men over 50): it’s a celebration of different types of beauty – does it matter if it’s gay or straight or what race it is?

Check out their work here.

‘address larger issues’ and two ping comments

[As I said in another entry, we'd like to keep comments to the blog, rather than in inappropriate areas like the links page or the frontpage]

Adeline submitted this comment on 2012/01/04 at 9:40 am

“I think it’s great to address the issue of sexual racism however I think the issue is larger and that we should be looking at sexual oppression. What about the fat phobia, femme phobia and misogyny that is expressed in the example “No Fats, Fems or GAMs”. Also, I feel that merely couching people on how to express racism in a more palatable way “Looking for slim, fit, masculine guys. Usually prefer men of [caucasian, latino, black] background”, still isn’t dealing with the root causes of racism.”

In response to an online survey, “Would you or have you dated someone outside your race? – Relationships -Dating, marriage, boyfriends, girlfriends, men, women, friends, attraction … – Page 27 – City-Data Forum

Nimchimpsky wrote: it’s kind of hard to be of color and NOT be willing to date outside your race in the gay community. Being gay already limits our options, having racial preferences would only serve to limit further. Actually more emphasis tends to be placed on race when it comes to selecting partners in the gay community, psrticularly among gay males. A strong tendency to date within one’s racial group often co-exists alongside a strictly-defined racial hierarchy for those who choose to date outside the group, where white gay men dwell at the top and black and Asian gay men the bottom (no pun intended). The racial issues present in the heterosexual mainstream are often magnified quite starkly in the LGBT community.

Also, found a PING comment from April 2011, where ‘sexual racism’ was referenced in a blog about ‘desire, film and gender’. The blogger says:

‘I tried online dating when I was younger only to abandon it in exasperation. I’ve never been a fan of online dating; mainly, because it is bleak. It strips the process of  dating & getting to know someone down to the bare essentials: it makes dating much like grocery shopping. This effect makes it easier for people to be very biased, if not outright racist (I don’t like Asians, Blacks, Whites, Arabs, etc.). It seems anything goes if one employs the defense of  a highly “personal” sexual preference and under the cloak of the Internet’

Check out more here.

Comments, anyone?

 

‘No Asians!’ by Alexander Chee in Out Magazine

Sexual racism doesn’t go away – it just takes different forms.

Alexander Chee, a talented American writer who I met years ago, has got an article out in Out magazine where he comments on a tumblr blog called “Douchebags of Grindr”.

Check it out here.

It was brought to my attention on facebook by Sylvia Tan, the talented editor of Fridae.com.

The content and arguments in the article are not new – but it’s great to see it in a prominent magazine like OUT, Alexander inserts himself into the story talking about some of his experiences (great – so it’s not just a diatribe) and the article is talking about Grindr, which rather updates are old complaints about gaydar profiles and the like.

An excerpt:

“If your profile reads “I block more Asians than the Great Wall of China!” you’re not only racist, it’s even weirder than that: You’re looking for a fellow Asian hater to date. You’re using the disguise of a semi–socially acceptable way to say you’re a racist and looking to hook up with other racists. That’s fine. Just change your profile to RACIST, SEEKS SAME instead.”

 

Don’t Ask, Just Tell (Sexual racism article, Metro Weekly Sept 2010)

Hey. My bro forwarded me a link to an article from last year published in New York’s Metro Weekly.

By Daniel Lee, it’s passionate and articulate, and I like the way that he calls out sexual racism both in the larger community and by gaysians ourselves…

http://metroweekly.com/news/opinion/?ak=5613&fb_source=message

Some excerpts:

  • “gay men have become unapologetic sexual racists, gender purists and enforcers of a gay male body culture on par with the oppressive beauty myth that women have endured for decades, as manifested in the phrase, ”No fats, no femmes, no Asians.” We gay men have seen it, or used it (or a variation of it) in endless personal profiles, but nonetheless, the disqualifying mantra is the un-critical acceptance of racial, gender, and body-biases often rationalized with the subsequent phrase, ”Just a preference.”
  • Our sexuality and our sexual desires are not static. Someone who claims to only be into ”butch” men could very well find himself unbearably attracted to a more effeminate man. Perhaps not as feasible, but not impossible. And that’s the point: it isn’t impossible, so why go shutting out the possibilities with inane disqualifiers?

Check it out.

 

Check out the latest debates (and NSFW websites)

It seems to me that while sexual racism needed to enter into public conversation in the gay world, it’s not going to go away – either sexually racist behaviour or discussions about it. Tim and I were talking about Sexual Racism on gaydar, Sen’s just written an article about it on grindr, so the issue is going to carry through in different forms and places.

fab Magazine from Toronto is an old friend of mine. Alex Rowlson published this article about sexual racism in its pages called “Not just a preference“. It’s sharply-written and smart: “Words can beat people down, but it’s within our power to change how we frame our desires, and even to change our desires to create more inclusive screwing.”

Over on The Sword (NSFW), a site that reviews gay porn, a writer has gone off (i.e. reacted badly) over Alex’s article. Each of his arguments could be lifted from my old blog entry and article where I rebutted the kinds of things that we heard in the early days of SRS. He gets it wrong from the first sentence, imagining that Alex’s article equates having a preference to being racist, which of course, it doesn’t. The interesting thing about his rant, which I see, oops, is written by the editor of the site, Zach Sire, is that it seems to have given rise to some healthy and energetic debate. I’d refer Zach and other readers to this site… but the conversation seems to be going quite nicely without us!

Meanwhile, another porn website points to both articles. I like Fleshbot (NSFW) and its writers – they have a real healthy and positive view about celebrating men of all colours and ethnicities, and they’re writing in a milieu that actually counts, one that gay men are viewing and one that has daily conversations and images about sex. Their posting simply points out a hot Asian guy getting f*cked and then casually refers readers to the other articles.

Advice for the Advice Columnist

Way back in 2003, I found an advice column by Dan Savage to a young gay Asian man. Dan’s been in the press like crazy lately with the ‘It Gets Better’ campaign and the Rick Santorum ‘I dare you to f*** with us’ campaign. I greatly admire him.

I wasn’t crazy about the advice given though — so, here’s the original column, and then my advice following it…

Savage Love

An advice column By Dan Savage Washington City Paper February 2, 2001

I go to an Ivy League college and, after a long bout of being alone, I decided to hook up.  I ended up going into the online chat rooms at Gay.com and — lo and behold! — there were many gay guys from my school online.  I was really excited — until I started talking to them.  I am Asian, you see, and though I think I’m pretty stable and have a decent body, Gay.com has been a very bad experience for me.  The moment I tell them I’m Asian, it’s “Sorry, I’m not into Asians.  ‘Bye.”  I don’t think I’ll ever go online again.

– Lonely Gay Loser

Yes, it hurts when someone rejects you for your race — just as it hurts to be rejected for your age, weight, gender, or dick size.  But what can you do?  Everyone has an absolute right to reject anyone for any reason at all, however unfair or arbitrary the reason may seem to the rejected party.  We can’t say, “That’s not fair, you have to fuck me!” when someone tells us to buzz off because of our race, weight or gender.  I assume you’ve rejected guys — you can’t be attracted to all men, correct?  Well, your reasons for rejecting a particular guy may feel just as hurtful to him as “I’m not into Asians” feels to you.

But there are ways to meet guys without hearing “I’m not into Asians.”  First, get out of the house.  When you walk out of your house into a gay bar, for instance, all the guys who aren’t attracted to Asians can see that you’re Asian, and they’re not going to waste your time approaching you.  When you’re at home and online, however, people can’t see you, and people who aren’t attracted to Asians may chat you up.  If you are going to meet people online, you can avoid chatting with guys who aren’t into Asians by letting guys know you’re Asian from the start.  “Anyone can post a profile at Gay.com, and it’s best to be upfront about who you are and what you’re up to,” advises Jeff Bennett, Gay.com’s co-founder.  “Letting people know who you are will filter out some of the negative vibes you’ve been getting.”  Call yourself “IvyLeagueAsianBoy” when you go online to chat and I promise you’ll find an Asian-loving fag to make brown puddles with in no time at all.

– Dan Savage

Advice for the Advice Columnist

Dear Dan,

I don’t think your response is too bad. It’s well-meaning at least. The advice to “get out of the house” is probably the best part.

But LGL’s complaint about racism on the internet is a valid one.

And I hate the kind of response that you gave. I get it and have seen it all the tiime. When you tell someone about a racist experience you’ve experienced, and the other person tries to explain it, or justify it. As if we haven’t already thought out the dozens of excuses for prejudice.

And while most types of discrimination are hurtful or harmful, racism has its own flavours.

It’s true that LGL sent his complaint to an advice columnist asking him advice. But asking him step into the shoes of the racist or ignorant and see it from their perspective? Blah. I don’t agree.

And he never said everyone has to fuck him. Or fuck all of us Asians. He pointed out a shitty racist unfriendly place for him to be. I’m not sure we should defend it.

The idea that “everyone has an absolute right to reject anyone for any reason at all” is a response to the demand that “everyone has an absolute right to have sex with anyone else for any reason at all”. I don’t see that demand being made.

I think what he was asking for was hope and comfort, and without knowing it, perhaps this: to be treated with respect and decency. And that means to me that if you’re not attracted to someone, you can still treat them as a human being, and with the kindness that I hope you would wish to be treated with as well.

You are right that getting out of the house and not using chat-sites might be the best way to get around this though. Another way is to put up a photo of yourself on your profile so that it’s clear what you look like. Then you don’t have to put “Asian” in the title, which really is kind of reductive and sad, that in the currency of gay sex and relationships, race is the most important marker.

I think the best advice is: buck up, hold your head up high, and go on and get ‘em, tiger! – but at the same time acknowledging that racism is out there, and it sucks.

– Andy

(And now from 2011, I’d add to that advice Dan’s own words: It Gets Better)

Getting It If You’re Asian

I wrote this piece for RICEPAPER magazine’s the SEX [-y/ual/ualized] issue” published in Spring 2002. It aimed to examine Asian sexuality as a whole rather than just Gay Asian sexuality.

You slide out of your mother’s sex, oblivious to her pain, and covered with the memory of your father’s sex inside that cavern nine months before – give or take a little whether you’re premature – pounding your clenched knuckles out into the world saying let me out let me out – or a bit late, wanting a bit more of that embryonic pillow, a touch more shut-eye.

The years afterwards fly by without too much importance until the body’s chemistry signals it to change into a new form. You get acne and oily skin and wonder years later why people insist that as an Asian you have a perfect complexion. Then the harder part, and softer ones too. You become man. You become woman. You become adult, nearly. Biologically, yes. Old enough to make a few babies yourself no matter what society says and how much longer marriages and childbirth are delayed.

The question (for now at least, not the only question, just one of the questions but not a bad one to focus on) is: how do you get it? How do you go about getting it?

You won’t even try to go about defining what ‘it’ is.

First, check out your lineage. Were your parents the kind that never talked about it? Did they ever show physical affection in front of you? Did they do ballroom dancing in the living room and cha-cha-cha in the bedroom? Make the bedsprings creak? Were they actually having a lot more sex than you ever knew about? Sorry. I know you didn’t want to think about that. Especially if you pictured it.

But it is an important consideration. A happy marriage can be a good model for a happy partnership which might include good sex. Feuding parents might mean you have brutal distant sex filled with fears of betrayal and abandonment. Horny parents might mean you’re comfortable with your body and you might be an early bloomer yourself. Shy parents might mean it might take you forever to get it. You might not even know that you want it.

A close family might mean your need for it gets replaced by this big kind of Asian Brady Bunch feeling and you don’t really have time to think much about it, because you’re permanently locked into the role of Marcia, Jan, Cindy, Greg, Peter or Bobby. Only Asian, like Margaret Cho’s family on TV except all the same race and maybe a bit funnier in real life.* Or it might mean a lack of space and opportunity since when are you going to get it when you’ll live at home until you’re 30 and maybe you share a room.

If your family is too close, it might drive you away. It might make you become that bad girl or boy they fear, you delving into it like a teenager into a mosh-pit. You differentiate yourself from your parents by giving into something wholly different from their chaste worlds. You try perfume but give it up, hoping you’ll smell of the sex you’re having, the scent a little different with each partner. There might be a few black sheep in the family. Lesbian grand-aunt. Playboy uncle. Wild-child cousin. The relation that became a sex worker and no one talks about. The other one that moved away and has umpteen kids. The one with the record for number of marriages and divorces. They are all parts of a painting of possibilities, their genes and yours might be the same, you might get it the same way they do.

Did you get fucked up by the kids at school? Perhaps. If they thought you’d get laid at all, they tried to match you up with the only other Asian in your class. You’d look great with Jimmy/Carol! You were the funny man, the joker girl, the best friend, the class brain. Kids didn’t flirt with you, you didn’t flirt with them. Early sex is for trashy white/brown/black kids anyways. Anyways, by now, you’ve gotten over this. Maybe.

Put your hand to your heart. OK. Woman? If so, that’s a bit harder. Woman pick up reputations like a static-charged TV screen attracts dust. If you want it, you’re going to be have to be either more brazen than most people, or much more discreet. Women aren’t allowed to want it, really. You’re sexual without being aggressive, flirtatious without being hungry. Not like men, penises with gray matter attached.

You’ll probably get it through the romantic route. Perhaps a careful negotiation with someone that you decide you like. Maybe you’ll learn each other’s bodies like favourite picture books you had as kids. You lick the drawing of the ice cream cone just to see if it has flavour.

If you’re attracted to women, it might be easier. Tender. Nurturing. Meet your lover at a dinner party thrown by a mutual friend. Or at the fruit and vegetable co-op, the bookstore, the women’s night at the gay club, a political meeting. Lesbians aren’t outwardly as sexual (not like the ones in straight men’s imaginations) but close those bedroom doors and bang. Baby, you’ve got it.

If you’re attracted to men. Well, men are nothing but trouble. Do you go for an Asian guy? Your parents might love that. You might even love it too, having figured out that for you, love comes from sharing histories, having things in common, understanding each other. Men are so inexplicable, why make it even harder by choosing someone a little different. Or maybe you just like that smooth skin and jet-black hair. Mmmmm.

Do you go for a white guy? There are a lot of them. Do you have to avoid the ones that have a reputation for going for Asian women, the ones with fantasies of dragon ladies, geisha girls, anatomically flexible Thai bar girls? The ones your girlfriends pointed out to each other at university and said watch out. You go out on a date. You find it slightly suspicious that his favourite movie is ‘the Joy Luck Club’ and he knows not to douse his meal with soy sauce. You’d find that cute if he did that.

Maybe somewhere down the line, you’ve already gotten it, but you want more of it. You’re in a relationship already but the heat has been turned down, past medium, lower than simmer, it’s barely on at all. You can touch your finger to the burner and not scald your skin. That could be the time for an affair, complicated and careful work like an advanced bonsai course: a lot of waiting, a bit of trimming, wondering if what you’e doing will turn into the right form. If it does, good. You’ve got it. Dangerously.

Put your hand to your heart. Man? OK. What are you going to do? Who are going to go for? How much do you listen to your parents anyways? Have you considered if you’re attracted to people on the basis of their race? Do you go for Asians, whites, or others (see above)? Or does it not matter? How can race not matter? Your whole life, people have treated you differently on that basis. How can it not slide over to dangerous sexual matters?

Did you absorb those stereotypes? Do you consider yourself less handsome for the shade of your skin? That the images of public figures that you’ve seen who look like you are classical musicians, kung-fu masters and TV chefs. Why isn’t Brad Pitt Asian? Why did you get stuck with this body that seems so slight in comparison with those other, bigger races? If Asian men are suppose to be so sexless, why are there billions of people in China?**

Regardless of race or gender, if you want to get it, you have to know that you want it. Be confident. Be obsessed even. Not too obsessed, not so you start to leer and grunt at inappropriate occasions, but enough to observe what’s going on about you, to notice what works and what doesn’t work, when a direct approach is going to get you the prize, or when you have to be more circumspect.

Listen. If you really want it, maybe you should consider being a gay male. Not all gay men get it, and gay asian men have a few of their own trees fallen in a storm across a highway when you want to get to Memphis. But yes, gay men can get a lot of it, if they want. It’s an odd trade-off between the pleasure of the senses and social equality, but some don’t mind it. You’ll have to contend with the same things straight people do – stereotypes, racism – or maybe even more. The gay sexual economy rates Asians pretty low. You might even have to make sure you’re in the right geographical location. I mean, if you’re in a small town in the middle of the Canada and you’re the only Chinese family for miles, it’s not like people are going to see you and think va-va-voom. They’ll think: restaurants, laundries, corner stores. Or maybe they’ll think: immigration, difference, strangers. You’ll probably have to move somewhere bigger.

It’s true. People get used to people in larger numbers. For a city to love Asians (and that includes sexually), there should be a lot of Asians. It’s likely that in between that stage of one Asian family and a whole population, there will be growing pains. Maybe best not to be there during that period. But it’s like food, which is rather a bit like sex, the same vocabulary of appetite, satiation, sensory overload, indulgence. Say there’s one crappy Thai restaurant, it can serve anything it wants because no one knows the difference. Then say there’s a few more restaurants, a bit of competition, a few more seats, more people familiar with lemon grass and fluffy catfish. Then suddenly there’s a craze. People are wild for Thai food, they can’t get enough, connoisseurs appear. Sometimes, it’s just about familiarity. I guess you could always just go to Asia to get it. I mean not only are Asians attracted to other Asians because they’re surrounded by them, but that extra caché, that smell of Norte Americanismo might make you even more the centre of attention. Be among your people, and be different at the same time. Have your cake, or custard tart, or Malaysian steam cake, or mango pudding. Eat it too.

There’s always bisexuality. It’s a bit more complicated than it sounds, but why not double your chances for a date on a Saturday night?

If you’re still not getting it, maybe you should lower your expectations. Or your standards. Become promiscuous. Tell people that the word ‘promiscuous’ is going out of style and has been replaced by the word ‘prolific.’ Is there something so bad about it? As long as you’re safe and don’t get nasty bug-a-boos and it doesn’t interfere with your ability to love, really love, someone else. What’s the problem?

Of course, all differences should be respected, and maybe you don’t really care about whether you get it or not. And that’s OK.

Or maybe you get it as often and as much as you want. Forget you ever read this.

*This is not meant as a dig at Margaret who I love! She is da best comic if you didn’t know that. However, the writers and producers of her show made it kind of not-funny-enough by not letting her control it, and my family all thought it was funny that because there aren’t a lot of visible Asian actors that her family were all-mix-up, a Japanese actor, a Chinese one, a Korean lead…

**I don’t know if Anthony Wong stole this line from someone else, but I certainly stole it from him.

I don’t have a racist bone in my body

I wrote this article for the magazine CRANK about internet racism in December 2001. It was my first attempt to put my thoughts down on the issue, and I was happy with the way it turned out. I aimed it at a general audience not necessarily familiar with gay internet stuff:

New social relations. 21st century modes of communication. Forces for social change. That’s what they say about the internet… In my world —that of a gay urban guy living in Sydney, Australia— what I mostly see is gay men using internet sites to look for sex — as well as friendships, relationships and love, maybe in that order. On www.gaydar.com.au, a site that is leading the way, men-seeking-men put up photos of themselves (jpgs) in various states of undress along with a description of who they are and who they’re after. Last week on this site, there were over 200 new members from Sydney alone. My guess is that urban centres from London to Vancouver claim thousands of members in each city.

What interests me at the moment is racism on the net: sexual racism that is – how people treat each other according to race while looking for sex or dates. It’s an interesting confluence of issues. The way we relate to each other sexually involves fundamental questions about self-esteem, the social structures in which we’ve been raised, and how we love and are loved. Discussions about race touch on some of the same issues, and both are topics that inflame nations, cities and communities. And while it may sound flippant, I also admit to self-interest. As an Asian gay guy, the more racism there is, the less sex I get.

The gay world, like the straight world, has developed a ranking system of characteristics that are sexually appealing. Along with weight, fitness level, height, masculinity and more, race is considered to be an acceptable factor to take into account. I’d say that Asian guys are at the bottom of the sexual totem pole, but First Nations and aboriginal guys might have an even tougher time. Of course, the reverse is true: there are men who specifically eroticize others on the basis of race. Guys who chase Asian men are called Rice Queens. But I’ve only got 1500 words for this article…

Around the world in gay bars and meeting places, white men are found to be more attractive than men from other races. If I walk into a predominantly white gay bar in the U.S.A., most of the white guys will not be interested. But if a white guy walks into a bar in Asia or Latin America, most men will be. While there may be economic factors thrown into this, it’s a disturbing dynamic. Some people might not think this is true, but those of us who have experienced it know it is true. Just ask us sometime, or ask any of the many white gay men who travel regularly to other countries where their sexual currency suddenly rises like the value of gold after a stock market crash.

  • Not interested in arrogant, effeminate guys, asians or guys with attitude.
  • Seeking other similar goodlooking masculine guys, no fems, no asians please.
  • Not into huge bodybuilders, fems, bears, Asians as a preference.
  • I am mostly attracted to white guys but have been known to date Puerto Ricans, cubans, and Spanish guys; FYI, I am not attracted to Asians nor African Americans, so please don’t waste your time nor mine. I am being honest here.

Hey, honesty is one thing but how did it become acceptable or permissible to advertise one’s racism? Would they think it’s OK to put ‘no blacks’ in a job ad? Are they unthinking, inept or just racist? The broad construction of the category ‘Asian’ includes tiny and big men, round and square faces, fats and fems, skinny guys and gym queens. How can you eliminate an entire race of people from your sexual radar? Or is it that the gay scene has actually become deracinated? So that the category of Asian is not a race but a negative characteristic, like bad breath.

I wrote an ad in which I described myself without identifying myself as Asian. They’d figure it out when I sent them a jpeg photo. I received this:

Hi! And before you start to delete this email because you see the word asian. No I am not campy, not short and not pimpled faced and not tiny below and not have a poor command of the English language: some of the most prevalent myths that most white gay men like to think of and love to stereotype us. If still interested, please send a reply. Otherwise, stick to the myths.

Ouch. You’d have to be a masochist to think this is attractive. My reply:

Hey, why so defensive? Did I say something wrong? While it seems you are making sure I don’t stereotype you as Asian, all I can tell from this response to my ad is that you ARE asian, cause that’s the only thing you say. Maybe tell me something about yourself?

However, I’d inadvertently signed this with my real name. This is what I received in return:

You are as asian as me…

True enough.

Another e-mail that I received responded to a later ad that I posted up with a photo of myself:

Do you like asians? If you do, I will send you my homepage. Just reply to this message please. Regards, Z

I replied:

I don’t think you should ever have to ask someone whether they like asians or not, just send them your website link and people can decide for themselves whether they like you, not because you’re asian, but because you’re you.

Can you tell that I always wanted to write my own advice column?

I asked first if you like asians because I have also received rude replies from other people when I first wrote to them. Anyway, thank you very much for your reply.

Ah, poor Z. I can imagine it happening.

Time to strike back. Pete, an office colleague, was surfing a site on work-time and found a very cute local boy, Brad. In Brad’s ad was: no fats, no fems, no Asians.

‘Move over, Pete,’ I said, sliding into his chair.

‘Oh no, what are you going to say? The message will show as coming from me!’ Pete cried out in panic and despair (that he might lose a shag).

My workmate was walking by and saw your ad and says this: ‘Do you have to advertize your racism? If an Asian guy replies to your ad, can’t you just politely decline as you would anybody else that you’re not interested in?’

The reply:

I’m not racist. I’ve got lots of Asian friends. I just don’t like the look sexually of Asian guys.

I discussed our reply options with Pete. He was disappointed at possibly losing a shag but willing to play along. I wanted to ask Brad what his Asian friends thought of his ad or if ‘no blacks’ would look the same to him as ‘no asians’. But Pete was more conciliatory. He wrote back saying that I didn’t necessarily say that Brad was racist but that his ad appeared to be racist, and was unnecessarily so. He added:

P.S. I think you’re hot.

I got angrier with the next ad I found. Not that I was looking for it, it just popped up in front of me: here’s your Big Mac, would you like racism with that? My response was to an ad for two young handsome guys looking for a third.

Just saw your ad on gaydar.com.au – do you know how it feels to be Asian and read something like “no asians please.” Probably not, since you’ve probably not experienced racism all your life, and again on the gay scene. It reminds you that no matter what you look like, short or tall, square or round jaw, that some people don’t want to even look at you because of your race. Even if you feel this way, you don’t have to advertise it. You’ve already said that people have to send you photos. If Asian guys send you a photo, just say “no, not interested” or don’t even respond. I’m trying to say this in the nicest way possible, but do you have to slap an Asian guy in the face every time they open your ad. Because that’s what you’re doing: Change it.

I expected either nothing or an aggressive response but instead received the following:

thanks for your message mate. It is food for thought and never really thought about it like that. We don’t have a racist bone in our bodies, it is purely a matter of sexual preference. Since you have been so diplomatic and polite, my good deed for the day is to change the ad immediately. Have a good night!

In the meantime, the guy that Pete was writing to changed his ad too, even though Pete still hasn’t got a date with him. Yeah! Social change one by one, I’m up for it. I’ll make the world a safe and more shaggable place for guys like me.